New infection at Broken Arrow

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New respiratory infection has caused one foal death already.

Abscesses still appearing.

Doors closing after Thursday at the Broken Arrow.

Why can’t the extra eyes and willingness of the public to watch horses be seen as a good thing instead of a burden?

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42 thoughts on “New infection at Broken Arrow

  1. jan eaker says:

    This is absolutely a terrible thing, is there anything to be done? anyone to contact that would do something?

  2. cat Kindsfather says:

    Laura, as you know, we all saw that poor little one with the horrid respiratory infection. Dean said, on the tour as we alerted him, that it had gotten antibiotic treatment from the vet, just before the tour, and yet, the next morning he was found deceased in the pen. : (

    I sent images to Dean of a young horse I have documented in community pen, hacking and coughing since May 16th, and is still sick. He has stated that the vet comes every day and sees and treats horses right away that need treatment. Why did True have to wait 6 days to be seen and treated? Why is this coughing one still in a community pen, not isolated? Has she been treated? I also did see more hematomas on some horses on this tour and last few. It seems that on every tour, negative issues are seen by the advocates and BLM staff must be alerted. We are being accused of LOOKING for things that are wrong. Absurd. These problems present themselves to us, as we are looking at all of them. As we are truly observing them and problems exist, we see them. BLM should be grateful for our help in discovering these problems and getting the horses treated and cared for, as they are in charge of the care of our wild horses!

    • Laura Leigh says:

      It is a mystery to me why an agency tasked by Congress to protect these horses does not see the value of public (free) observers.
      Abbey is claiming to be looking for a “new direction” while doors close and public participation is seen as a “burden.”

      With the number of horses at that facility the BLM should take you all by the hand… assign you a pen to watch…. hand you a notebook and gratefully accept the input. It would free up the staff, create good will and help the horses.

      True was transported to Palomino Valley.
      A vet visit was not scheduled until 6 days after transporting 82 horses. Even after one “put up a fight” and was injured a vet was not called. With the higher probability of injury during transport a vet visit should have been on the schedule no later than 48 hours after arrival.
      More reactive, not proactive, BLM thinking.

      • cat Kindsfather says:

        Interesting, Laura, that you say a vet was not scheduled until 6 days after transporting the 82 from Broken Arrow to Palomino Valley!

        They keep saying that one vet is enough to over see and treat all horses in both of these facilities! That advocates on the tour do come face to face with existing problems of urgency, regarding the health and lives of these horses, just shows that one vet and whoever else may be observing them, is just not enough! Dean stated in an email to Elyse, that I also got copied on, that the vet visits all the pens every morning and treats accordingly. So, if this is true, why the six day wait at Palomino? Why is it then, on every tour, we are faced with seeing situations that need reporting. If in fact, all horses, foals included, are being monitored every morning, it would seem that less issues of alarming nature would be presenting themselves on the tour. To cease the public from viewing is the wrong action to take. These horses belong to the American people, and we must have access to see them, if not in the favored wild places, then wherever they have been forced to reside, we should have access.

        I agree, they should be grateful to have free services from advocates, freeing up time and salaried personnel on their staff. It is time for BLM and wild horse advocates to work together on all levels in the care of America’s magnificent and beloved horses. The Deputy Division Chief, Dean Bolstad, has been a very gracious host and accommodating on the tours. I would hope that he might consider the large benefit of our further assistance in observing the horses.

        • Laura Leigh says:

          I agree that Dean has been gracious and very human.

          But keep in mind that in his words “the public has created a burden on my staff.” Dean does not see the hundreds of emails his staff needs to answer each week as anything to continue.
          If observers are shut out… the emails and news reports about the Broken Arrow stop.

          Instead of creating proactive opportunities for the public we will see reactive protocol to shut it out.

          Appearances will suggest dialogue… but actions will suggest ways to continue practices unchanged.

          The same applies to the “workshop.”

          • savewildhorses says:

            The Public is Dean’s boss. Dean serves the public, not his staff.

          • cat Kindsfather says:

            Exactly Laura. Due to the public responses, the whole of the observations has become a “Burr in the Saddle” for BLM. Apparently the negative responses, outweigh our free assistance in observing the needs of the horses in their care.
            Being shut out, is not the same as being shut up! The horses will continue to need our voices even more so, and as usual, we will be there for them. Thanks Laura!

          • jan eaker says:

            Yes and WE the PUBLIC also pay his salary, and those of his overworked staff, maybe it’s time to remind all of them of this fact,

  3. Linda says:

    Ending the tours is totally unacceptable, as is the BLM’s position on barring people like you, Kat, and others who could actually lend a helping hand to the BLM workers. Even the most well-meaning hands must be overwhelmed by the sheer number of horses. I can only conclude the BLM doesn’t want additional “failures” made public.

    The Keiger mare drove that frightened little one right up to the fence at at time it should have been continually nursing on mom. If she’s frustrated by her loss, she may continue to keep other babies off their moms. That colostrum is vital, especially if a contagion is present. Was she removed as well?

    As for the foal that died, I know what a “snotty nose” looks like, and that baby’s nose must have been “snotty” and it’s eyes runny for a number of days. Removing mares and foals to the hospital pens won’t help if the infection is already spreading by contact or airborne from coughing. Necropsy should have been done immediately.

    And the abcesses from rubbing the pipe at the feeders? BALDERDASH! Has the vet tested any of the discharge? I know these are wild horses, but that’s why vet’s have tranquilizer darts. I wouldn’t think it would be that difficult to confine a horse to a seperate pen until the abcess bursts, then tranq, and take a sample ASAP.

    I sure wish your audio picked up more of the comments by your “tour guides”. Sounded to me like they were harassing you again. Folks with cameras cause problems, but 4-wheelers and other vehicles don’t? MORE BALDERDASH!

    • Linda says:

      Sorry, Cat, spelled your name incorrectly. Thanks to you and all our “front-line heroes” for representing those of us who can’t be on-the-ground at these horrid places. Be safe and strong!

    • Laura Leigh says:

      The first sign of infection should have been removed and cultured. I agree that at this point it is most likely too late.

      I also agree that baby did not get that bad in 24 hours.

      That vet needs more eyes if he can’t see what is happening to each individual. Maybe volunteers could help him do his rounds?
      : )

  4. jan eaker says:

    I struggle to be a positive thinker, my glass is of the half-empty variety, and I feel BLM really wants you all to go away and just let the horses die, they’re going to anyway, so what difference does it make; I also feel that they really don’t get WHY there is so much interest in these horses and why people are getting upset by what is “business as usual.”
    I really want to use the example of the guy in FL, I know one person can make a great difference. I just don’t know where to start. I mean, he took on a whole macho, horses are just animals, who cares how they’re treated culture and he is winning, who do we start with in NV?

  5. cat Kindsfather says:

    Thank you Linda! : )

    Also, everyone please see Elyse Gardner’s new updates on her blog! She also posted Deans statements there and revealing images and video clips. A great post Elyse! Thanks for using some of my images which are very supportive to the facts in your documenting report. A huge thanks here to Elyse and Laura for all they have done for our horses, and for keeping the public abreast on all issues.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      My article links to her blog, btw.

    • jan eaker says:

      Cat and Laura, I just viewed Elyse’s blog update, if a humane investigator came to my property in IL and saw a colt in the condition of either of those babies, or a hematoma that size on 1 of my horses, I would be issued a violation,a fine and have a finite amount of time to rectify the problem and be sure to get a vet out. That this is not done by a government agency that’s supposed to be caring for these horses, that they are exempt from humane laws, is very hard for me to accept.
      Also, just because they’re babies, doesn’t mean they are assured of finding good homes; there are many 3-strikes horses that were born in holding facilities and are under 2 years old and are sold for $25.

  6. savewildhorses says:

    Could not the respiratory problems be linked to the outbreak of pigeon fever? Once it gets to the lungs isn’t is quite dire? I was concerned about all the new foals with this outbreak. i don’t see how they couldn’t be affected. But, this is just speculation. If Fallon had a vet on staff, they would be able to determine more about the infection and its contagiousness. Why do we never hear about the causes of death? I don’t know any vet that operates that way.

  7. Linda says:

    Off-topic to this post. From viewing all of the horses included in the last Internet Adoption, I have a couple of suggestions to make:

    Take photos of all the horses likely to go up on the Internet next spring BEFORE they grow winter coats. Maybe add a “fuzzball” photo of the yearlings to show how they’ve grown, but let folks see better images of those up for bid.

    Also, add a few more words in the descriptions of each of the horses to personalize them and make them more attractive to bidders.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      The whole concept is lopsided.

      BLM often makes statements that AML needs to be brought down to match the adoptions.

      Well… the adoption program is sorely lacking.
      Yes, there are wonderful horses in the prison training programs… but expand them.
      There are internet adoptions that occur with no fanfare and awful, awful photographs. Photograph the horses interacting with humans! Even through the bars instead of looking terrified as a staff member approaches them… alone in a pen.

      Put a decent amount of money into the program. The only place the BLM increases spending in any viable way is holding facilities and the gather machine.

      The whole program is a reactive strategy… a bit of proactive work would go a long way.

      And I do not mean a lip-service workshop intended to forward the current plan of gathering as much as they can in 2010 and then forcing the “showcase” herd sanctuary concept down our throats.

      Our horses were supposed to be managed as wild and integral… not mismanaged into a crisis situation.

      Can you tell I’ve been reading BLM documents all day?
      : )

      • Suzanne says:

        Me too, Laura. :o( Just a couple of points. The adoption program – you’re dead on when you say it needs more publicity – a LOT more!

        I was born in Texas and lived there until 1993. I barely ever heard ANYTHING about this program, and I do mean ANYTHING. Occasionally I’d read in a magazine about someone adopting a Mustang, but it always sounded like it would be QUITE an undertaking – enough to discourage a lot of people from looking into it, I’m sure. I mean, my god! – TEXAS after all!

        I lived in Dallas and couldn’t have done it at the time, but had they made it more accessible, and reasonable sounding, who know what would have happened?

        If they would spend a little money on this program, I know adoptions would go up. Especially if they offered more horses that were at least halter broke, or be prepared to advise adopters where they could get qualified help in their own area.

        Salazoos: Aside from anything else, they are not going to get NEARLY the tourist action they would get with functioning herds in the West. Who would pay to see horses in pastures? It’s not only the reproduction thing, it’s the whole Western Mystique. Pastures in the Midwest? Come ON! Where’s that scenery they saw in the pictures?

        Also, there are domestic breeds that still have the “thrifty” digestive systems, Morgans and Arabians and ponies especially. I own a Morgan gelding and a Quarter/pony mix mare. There is NO way they could be turned loose on the grasslands.

        We are in Indiana now, and have 9 acres of pasture for two horses. I have to keep the them off that grass from early spring to dead winter or he wouldn’t be able to squeeze in the barn door, and she would founder long before she got that fat. They can’t even have free choice GRASS hay. So, I have nightmares about what will happen to the wild ones. Obesity, Insulin Resistance, founder…….

        Sigh… I won’t go down without a fight, but I need to get a bit of rest now. You know what a headache BLM docs give a person.

      • Linda says:

        The 150th Anniversary of the Pony Express Re-ride would have been an excellent opportunity for the BLM to recruit adopters and Mustang Magic trainers to participate in the ride and showcase the horses. These people are experts at missing the boat when it comes to PR.

        Here’s a copy of an old “Western Horseman” article on the Pony Express HORSES. Most other articles I’ve read don’t even mention the horses, except the numbers purchased or killed. The toast at the end says it all!

        http://westernhorseman.com/index.php/featured-articles/article/420-the-horses-of-the-pony-express.html

        The Re-ride started yesterday in Sacramento, and will end on June 21st in St. Joseph, MO. Here’s the schedule of stops (one at Fort Churchill, NV!) and celebrations:

        http://www.xphomestation.com/2010-ReRide-Schedule.html

        • Laura Leigh says:

          Yes it would have been an opportunity.

          But right now they are focused on making us believe they are looking for ideas.

          They ARE NOT.

          They have made up their minds on Salazoos. It is what they are after. They want horses off of land and into preserves so the HMA’s can be managed for cattle and extractive industry.

          They are NOT interested in bringing up any more public interest in Mustangs. They might get more people hanging out at holding facilities.
          : )

  8. sandra longley says:

    First of all this is the news that I have been most afraid to hear..this is that period of time when foals will start loosing the immunity from the colostrum, and start becoming sick and septic..those with compramised immune systems are going to die..and i say that because the staff there is not ahead of the problem..in the very best of circumstances it would be touch and go..under these circumstances it is a death sentance for those foals..Viral infectious pnemonia, or just the end product of the complete breakdown of the foals system..don’t have high hopes for ANY of those foals to survive..Any animal born into an overcrowed filty environment, with the weather conditions being what they are this year, no protections, constant stress of trying to protect their foals-where in the Hell is the USHS in all of this..get a fricking “competent” “qualified” broodmare/foaling vet out there..Ask any breeder..a run of the mill vet-will not do..you don’t learn how to deal with breeding farm issues out of a book or in a lab at vet school..it is the staff at a farm that is experienced-more so than a vet- to catch these issues before they become life threatening..once you have those respirtory issues show up..you are at the end of the line..you are too late.

    Next, Why have they left that buckskin mare in the pen with the foaling mares..she should have been removed immediately..it has been my suspicion all along that that mare was NOT sorros mother..I discussed it with other breeders who I had look at the video..we have ALL had mares that stole anothers baby at birth..it is not that uncommon in groups of mares..the difference is we are all watching our mares closely..we know who goes where..she did not look at all like a mare who had just foaled..in any way shape or form..timid or first time mothers will just back off

  9. savewildhorses says:

    I agree with you Sandra on both points. One, I believe having one vet on staff is negligence. There should be a dedicated vet for the mares and foals and the sick pen. More foals and mares should be moved to the sick pens, any foal sneezing or coughing. Cultures should be done to see what they are dealing with.

    And I believe there is a possibility that this was not Sorro’s mother too. I also don’t believe it was 3 days old. I think it was older and this issue was not addressed because they do not have the staff to adequately monitor the all the horses. I will say it again, one vet is not adequate. For the life of me, I cannot see why they are so obstinate on this issue. It is not a question of money. They act like these horses are on a feedlot like cattle shipping to slaughter so minimal care and attention is needed. All the more reason to have the doors remain open so the public can see what is going on every week. I wish someone would file a lawsuit to keep the doors open and to hire additional vet care. It is the only thing that gets their attention.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      With a brief look at the horses each week we are so limited in what we see.

      If BLM could only have seen all the people who care so much as just as much of a resource… and utilized the willing eyes to help observe this vulnerable population of individuals.

      That even months after the end of the gather still needs observation.

      Instead they close the doors. They should be opening them further….

  10. savewildhorses says:

    You are right, Laura. They said the majority of the processing was done and that there is nothing to see. Well, if the majority of the processing is done, they have more time on their hands to conduct tours and the public should be even less of a burden on their staff. I think people should continue to show up on Sundays at tour time. I don’t think they are capable of caring for all these horses safely and diligently without the public’s attention. I really fear for the health and safety of the horses, especially the foals at this very critical time.

  11. sandra longley says:

    Can we get some organization going for the twin peaks roundup since it will be the same time as Denver? a post up with time and place ect-are they even allowing observers/ I could call the BLM and get particulars..do we have any people going and could we get organised..those of us who are not going to denver..I am in oregon and could get to the roundup.

  12. sandra longley says:

    OMG! some good news to take to Denver with you!!!

    http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_15234573?nclick_check=1

    • Laura Leigh says:

      Be careful with this one.

      The Soldier Meadows AUM’s are technically within the complex.
      If there is a “sanctuary” within the complex of wild horses they may spin it to count them among the wild population. This proposal fits well into the “showcase herd Salazoo plan”
      Yet it is the best option on the table for the horses held NOW at the Broken Arrow.
      We need to be mindful of any price paid at the expense of horses left free.

      Again this is the best NOW option and I hope it is approved. However we need to make sure we read the “fine print.”

  13. sandra longley says:

    No..the good news part of it was baca coming out against shipping the horses to the midwest when we have land available here..from there we can negotiate..as it stands with the ruby pipeline..the BLM has offered ruby a buy into soldiers meadows through purchase of kudras ranch-which has been up for sale.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      I have tried to point that out to others.
      I was told that the deal to buy the ranch fell through.

      My comment on the other thread stands…
      luv ya.

      Nice to have the “on the ball” conversation this a.m.

    • sandra longley says:

      According to the information revealed in WWP lawsuit on the calicos..It was always the “intent” of the BLM to put cows on soldiers meadows once the horses were removed..there are plans to fence soldiers meadows off, as well as fences in sheldon oit was all in the final EA which is where all the bombs get dropped that no one mentions before

    • sandra longley says:

      The fact that this comes from Baca adds tremendous weight to our argument.

  14. cat Kindsfather says:

    Bring Backa Baca

  15. Laura Leigh says:

    Don’t forget that the past sets up the present.

    Remember the Trojan horse.

  16. sandra longley says:

    Nhttp://latinopoliticsblog.com/2010/06/07/ken-salazars-bp-fox-sylvia-baca/
    Note :this article posted on The latino Blog…

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