Palomino Valley Update

Stallions have been moved to the “Big Pen.”

The dynamic among the group of horses was much more relaxed than yesterday. We saw some “stud pile” socializing and witnessed no aggressive behavior today. A bit of space in a more secluded place in the facility provides a much safer environment for horses and also the handlers.

The "Big Pen"

In order to get to this larger pen you need to walk around the facility a bit. If the idea of keeping them (stallions) in the small pen was to facilitate visibility… walking visitors around to see these horses might just facilitate an adoption or two.

#6171… Sweet and actually pushy for attention.

Ready for a place to call home (Elyse Gardner)

True has been moved to a hospital pen that is off limits to public view.

The BLM staff vet finally paid him a visit.

I asked the assistant manager if he would use my camera and take a quick photo for me. He took my camera but I failed to show him how to use the zoom. He took several pics to let me see that the wound had been treated saying he got as close a pic as he could. He said the flaps of skin had been cut off to reduce proud flesh. The wound treated and bandaged. He told me that he personally had to stick his head into the chute and the blood that was visible at the fetlock was from the injury to the foreleg. I thanked him for getting the pictures for me.

True 5/25 (PVC staff)

I don’t know when they will put him back with his dad. This little guy was gathered, separated from family, then found dad, then was separated from dad and gelded, then put back with dad , then moved and injured and now separated again. Sweet True boy… you will be back with daddy soon.

Putting together more pieces of pieces… will update again tomorrow.

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41 thoughts on “Palomino Valley Update

  1. savewildhorses says:

    Love your blogs. Finally suscribed. Glad True got medical care. Just make sure he goes back to his daddy ; )

    Thanks for all you do to keep us informed, Laura.

  2. cat Kindsfather says:

    Great to see True finally got attentions! Do hope he can get back with his dad soon. I have been pulling up tagged images for you. Need response to some questions I mailed to you asap, to keep the work in order of preference and needs. Glad you have watched out for True and the others. See you soon I hope. How are all the other boys doing? Nice to hear they are calmer and in a bigger pen! Is Red Man with Tomahawk? Lightning is looking good I read.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      Yes… Redman and Tomahawk are side by side…
      I’ll post pics tomorrow.
      Tired.

      • cat Kindsfather says:

        Laura.
        Please get some sleep : ) ….and then please reply to my earlier questions when you wake. Just sent a mail to Mar@ herdwatch regarding the questions too. See ya!!

  3. Hi Cat, you should go see them! mar

  4. cat Kindsfather says:

    Hi Mar!! How are you? I may go out with Terri Farley. Are you around still? Hope to see you Thursday if so. <3

  5. Anna says:

    True has been moved to a hospital pen that is off limits to public view.

    VERY BAD NEWS !

    This is the same pen that Hope the Foal perished in; correct?

    • savewildhorses says:

      Actually, it is good news. He has been treated for his wound.

      • Anna says:

        oh I see they put a “tight piece of adhesive tape on his near his hoof; and called that treating the wound

        I recall a video I watched of a Mustang at PVC

        the bandage on the mustangs’ hooves was so “tight;

        the bottom of the hoove was bulging out the bottom

        summary; the blm puts tape on mustangs legs…(and calls that treatment !

  6. Anna says:

    and if the pen True is moved to is a Palamino; nonetheless;

    this will be the same type of pen where Hope the foal perished

    this is becaue in those pens the mustangs get LESS Hay;

    not extra Hay as should be ! True? I am praying for ya buddy!

    but I am a realist; and I know what “they did to ‘Mouse(was in a sick pen; Hope was in a sick pen; I know what they did to Hope the foal; the downed mare was in a sick pen; Lil One day and I KNOW WHAT THEY DID TO FEATHERS; the emaciated Foal; the BLM “shot Feathers The Thin Calico Foal!

    • Laura Leigh says:

      Anne…
      It is not the same type of pen Hope died in.

      Hope was in a hospital pen in a facility that was still under construction. At that time it had no windbreaks etc.
      True is in a hospital pen in a facility that is well established.

      Mouse was NOT in a hospital pen. He was found injured (fractured vertebrae) and euthanized.

      Sorro was not shot. Sorro was chemically euthanized in the pen with his mom.

      • Anna says:

        yeah; that’s right; the BLM “shot Feathers the Foal; and the BLM “shot Lil One day…

        “by “shot I mean the only two methods the BLM uses;

        a. shot by poison dart
        b. shot by gun (rifle)

        SO EITHER WAY HOPE; FEATHERS; LIL ONE DAY “SHOT !

  7. Anna says:

    AND SO THE QUESTION TO MY REPRESENTATIVE HIMES IS:

    WHY DID THE BLM “SHOOT AND KILL FEATHERS THE FOAL ?

    INSTEAD OF FEEDING FEATHERS THE FOAL MILK; WATER OR PELLETS; can’t anyone but me see the lil Foal Feathers….

    searching along the Hay Feeders for Hay and finds NONE ?
    the foal is DESPERATLY searching for fresh hay; finds none

    FOALS SHOULD BE GIVEN CREEP FEED AT AGE 1 OR 2 WKS.

    A FOAL IN THE WILD WOULD GET NATURAL CREEP FEED…

    THE BLM SHOT THE FOAL INSTEAD OF RE-FEEDING HER !
    True has been moved to a hospital pen that is off limits to public view.

    True has been moved to a hospital pen that is off limits to public view.

    IS THE BLM SAYING THEY DO NOT RE FEED THIN FOALS ?

    crazy ! they say they Save mustangs from Starving? the opposite is true; THE BLM STARVED THIS FOAL IN THE PENS

    AND THEN SHOOTS THEM ! THIS IS A CRIMINAL OFFEENSE!

    • savewildhorses says:

      I don’t think the BLM vet shoots foals as his method of euthanasia.

      • Anna says:

        THE BLM JUST “SHOT TWO 2 MONTH OLD FOALS AT THE GATHER SITE BY GUNSHOT !

        I HAVE THIS ON RECORD BY THE BLM ! (will post ! )

        • Anna says:

          FROM THE BLM: Gather Mortality Log July 2010

          (all euthanasia performed by gunshot and all carcasses buried near temporary holding corral)
          Saturday, 7/10/10

          1) 5 year old, grey mare, complete open fracture of the right distal tibia, likely caught in panel, just above the hock, euthanized by contractor, gather related
          Sunday, 7/11/10
          2) 3 year old black stud, found dead in pen, necropsy #1, cause of death water starvation/dehydration, non-gather related
          3) 2 month old, bay colt, found dead in pen, presumed cause of death weakness and water starvation/dehydration, non-gather related
          4) 6 year old dark bay mare, found dead in pen, necropsy #2, cause of death water starvation/dehydration, non-gather related
          5) 2 year old palomino stud, bleeding from mouth, head injury, severe neurologic deficits, probable water intoxication, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian, non-gather related
          6) 5 month old black stud colt, down unable to rise, weakness attributed to water starvation/dehydration, no response to treatment, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian, non-gather related
          7) 8 year old grey mare, down unable to rise, colic attributed to water starvation/dehydration, no response to treatment, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian, non-gather related
          8) 6 year old roan mare, fell, seizure and died suddenly during sorting, necropsy #3, cause of death water intoxication, non-gather related
          Monday, 7/12/10
          9) 4 year old dark bay stud, found dead in pen, piled up in corner near chute panels, necropsy #4, cause of death water intoxication, non-gather related
          10) 4 year old bay stud, colic and neurologic deficits 24 hours duration, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian due to hopeless prognosis for recovery, necropsy #5, cause of death water intoxication, non-gather related
          11) 4 month old, bay leppy colt, died following treatment and supplemental feeding, cause of death complications related to water starvation, chronic abscessed tooth, non-gather related
          12) 3 year old, smoky palomino stud, colic and complications related to water starvation, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian as an act of mercy due to incurable condition, non-gather related
          Thursday, 7/15/10
          13) 3YO black stud, neurologic signs, overall condition deteriorating over time (dull, weak, unresponsive, proprioceptive deficits and hypermetria), euthanized by contractor due to the incurable nature of the condition, sequelae to water intoxication following water starvation, non-gather related
          Saturday, 7/17/10
          14) 5 MO bay colt, found dead in pen, was treated on 7/16/10 was weak, dull, depressed. Hand fed and watered but did not respond to treatment. Cause of death water starvation and starvation, non-gather related.
          15) 25+ YO grey stud horse. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defects, that were severely broken and missing teeth. One eye missing, pre-existing, and the remaining eye was only partially visual, non-gather related.
          16)3MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severely bowed front legs, non-gather related.
          17) 3MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severe LF angular limb deformity (carpus valgus) and moderate RF rotational deformity (toed out) non-gather related.
          Sunday, 7/18/10
          18) 4.5 YO black stud. Died from cervical spinal cord injury. Hit a panel during sorting yesterday, appeared stable but his condition deteriorated and during sorting today he fell and died, gather related.

          SUMMARY OF THIS BLM POST JULY 2010 Tuscarora; according to what I read by the blm:

          6) 5 month old black stud colt, down unable to rise, weakness attributed to water starvation/dehydration, no response to treatment, euthanized by APHIS veterinarian, non-gather related
          anne comment; this means the foal was “shot while the foal was lying down resting…

          16)3 MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severely bowed front legs, non-gather related.
          anne comment: “this foal was “shot with gun; foal only 3 mos.old…

          17) 3 MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severe LF angular limb deformity (carpus valgus) and moderate RF rotational deformity (toed out) non-gather related.
          anne comment: this foal was “shot with gun; foal only 3 mos.old…
          THE BLM OPENLY ADMITS: “BLM SHOOTS FOALS!

          look; i don’t write these things because I want to cause trouble or turn against our gov. !

          I write these things so people know the truth !
          \
          because only the truth will set the mustangs free

          SUMMARY: during a 48 hour roundup:

          4 mares “died…
          8 Stallions “died…
          6 FOALS OR COLTS DIED…

          How I ask you how could 8 stallions die in 2 day
          how I ask you could 4 mares die in 2 days
          how I ask you could SIX FOALS DIE IN 2 DAYS
          (3 of them were SHOT by the contractor or Vet.!

          HOW COULD A GOV. DO SUCH TERRIBLE THINGS
          so yes the blm does “shoot foals only months old (see top line of their news release to verify;

          my opinion is: Hope the foal “was also shot! BAD

          NINE OUT OF THESE TWELVE WERE SHOT (by gun

          HEY I DON’T MAKE THE LAWS ! I try to ammend the laws thru congress to “stop the madness !

          of an out of control gov. bureacracy the BLM !
          this is horrifying; what the blm contractor +Vet!

          • Laura Houston says:

            The blm is calling running off 10-20 gallons of sweat, by helicopter- to the point of heat stroke, “non gather related”.

            Is that crazy or what. How could they even place that in text and have any horse person believe those words. “non gather related”

    • Laura Leigh says:

      Sorro was too young for hay.
      Sorro was not shot.

      I saw Sorro the day he was put down.
      It was the concensus of observers on the ground that the foal was not going to make it.
      If he had been triaged earlier perhaps he would have made it, perhaps not. If he went with the others removed to private care he might have made it, he might not. If there were an anomaly present in the foal that kept him from nursing or thriving (there are several conditions) or if mom never had enough milk… we don’t know (mom was a PZP treated mare regathered from CA).

      • savewildhorses says:

        So, this mare has been treated with PZP and rounded up twice? Goodness. That’s a bit much.

      • Anna says:

        the blm couldn’t have even tried to re-feed the Foal?

        not even try ?

        not even a drop of milk ?

        not even helping the foal to stand up and nurse;

        there was nothing wrong with the foal except the foal was too thin…

        the foal was prancing around the corrals ! very sad
        ps I do not think Feathers was too young for creep feed; Foals can eat creep feed at one week; ques.

        WHY DIDN’T THE BLM TRY TO RE-FEED THE FOAL?
        I have seen a foal in MUCH worse condition; be revived with a Vitamin B-Complex shot; I watched a Foal on the ground who could not stand up for days

        actually stand up and eat after ONE B-COMPLEX SHOT
        I wrote the blm scores of times about adminsitersing B-Complex shots to weak Mustangs
        to get them up and eating; blm doesn’t feed foals
        never mind give them supplements;
        I would bet my life on this; I could have saved that foal named Feathers the emaciated foals…

        The blm is WAY TOO QUICK in their methods ! IMO A

  8. Linda says:

    Laura, I hope you had a night of well-deserved rest.

    It’s so good to see that stallions relaxed in the big pen. I sure would be more inclined to adopt a horse in that atmosphere. Will the staff be taking photos of each horse? If so, that should provide a potential adopter a better look at a horse they’re interested in.

    Good news about True getting treatment, even though long overdue. Did they get a look at what you thought could be a puncture wound? I hope he’ll be back with dad (and you) soon. Is Commander bearing weight on his leg and moving any better?

    They have all been through so much, yet some seem willing to begin to trust the “two-leggeds”. Your video & pix with True and that photo of #6171 are a testament to that.

    If you need help of any kind, please email me. Be well. L.

    • Laura Leigh says:

      Yes… Commander was bearing full weight on his foot yesterday.
      I’m writing a piece on the adoption process today.
      6171 is a real sweetheart. He’d be a “pocket pony” in a few months.

      • Suzanne says:

        That 6171 is a DOLL! Who could refuse such a precious sweetie? I wish I could take him, but I just don’t have the facilities and the physical abilities to do much ground work anymore.

        Besides, I have one “pocket pony” already, only he’s no pony, he’s over 15h! Sweet though. ;o)

        I’m SO glad the vet finally saw True, especially glad he straightened up that flap of skin. Should heal fine now. Also good to hear Commander was putting full weight on his foot. I know those pastern injuries can be very painful for them.

        Don’t forget to take care of yourself too!

  9. savewildhorses says:

    Laura,
    Do you know of any wild horse rescues that may be interested in adopting a family band? How about Return to Freedom? i know they try to keep family bands intact. Could General and his be saved? Also, is there anyway we can convince the BLM to release Lightning and some of the other stallions to preserve their obvious strong and healthy genes?

  10. jan eaker says:

    I am glad to see that improvements have been made, are these because of YOU and the other observers??? would this have happened if no one had been there to see what was going on?????

  11. cat Kindsfather says:

    Regarding Feather, aka Sorro……. Soro aka Feather, the emaciated foal was not shot, but euthanized by injection. We did not have to notify the BLM staff about it, as we saw him on the tour and the tour was hosted by Dean Bolstad, the BLM’s Deputy Division Chief who was right there with us observing and walking along outside of this pen when we saw him. I was standing directly next to Dean when he called the vet, and I know he too was horrified by the sight of his condition. I pleaded with him to give the foal a chance in a volunteer rescue situation, such as Shirley Allen’s care where the 3 blm foals are being cared for and Iron Man also. It was the vets decision he was too far gone. Its a horrible, sad and unpalatable result. We can never know if he could have been saved, but basically what Laura has posted above is, is the bottom line. Bringing awareness and change, is the positive for future foals and horses. More vets, shelters, more hours for observers, are things to focus one now. Pursuing all avenues to try to get wild horses free and protected, respected, adopted and cared for, should be the priority now. All our tears go with the little foal. I spoke softly to him and stayed by him as long as I could, while others ventured on to see the rest of that pen. That is when I named him Feather, a medicine name that came on the wind which was also about to take him.
    Elyse gave him a very good name too, Sorro. To me he is still Feather.
    But having two names is an honor, something that can follow him with all of our hearts.

    There needs to be better observation in the future for all the horses. Foals need special attentions I feel, but their births and deaths are not recorded until they are freeze marked at age of 4 to 6 months, as most of you know. This is something I feel needs to change! I think the foals should be recorded with a photo image and their mothers number plus the letter “F” for foal, or some sort of system like this. Thanks for reading my thoughts and input. We cannot let the disappointment and sorrows of the case dismissal drag us down.
    Keep working for them, speaking for them, the wild horses need all of us!

    • Suzanne says:

      Great post. I agree about the foals. Waiting until they’re 4 to 6 months is ridiculous. They should have a system like you described – something! You’d think newborns didn’t even count, like they weren’t really alive or something. I hate that.

  12. Anna says:

    yeah truly a shame about a thin foal being “shot by chemicals

    instead of being given “a Vitamin B-Complex nutritional shot

    this stimulates the appetite; but it wouldn’t have mattered’

    even if Feathers had gotton the B-Complex shot; there would not have been any Hay for the lil feller to eat anyway

    see THE BLM DOES NOT PUT HAY INSIDE THE CORRALS AT FALLON

    THE ONLY WAY A FOAL GETS HAY IS THE ADULT RAILING

    AND MOST FOALS CANNOT REACH THIS RAILING

    so it is my opinon; when a foal has fallon loses his mum; or his mum’s milk dries up

    the foal does not get any hay except the outside railing
    and IT IS ILLEGAL TO PEN A FOAL AND NOT PROVIDE FEED !@

    yet that is what the blm does; pens foals with no creep feed!

    so Feathers lost his life because; there is no hay in the corral
    the hay is on the outside
    and even hay would have been better than nothing; imo A.
    summary i could hav saved that foal; this is my final comment

  13. Anna says:

    16) 3 MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severely bowed front legs, non-gather related.
    anne comment: “this foal was “shot with gun; foal only 3 mos.old…July 2010 Tuscaorora BLM “roundup…

    COMMENT: I hereby name this “Foal destroyed by the BLM because she had “bowed curved front legs caused by a Deficiency of Vitamin D; correctable if caught early…

    I hereby name this Foal who had Ricketts (bowed legs>

    O’ Foal: I name you: “Tee legged; Toe legged; Bow legged Annie !
    you go girl…you rest in the arms of your Creator ! blessings

  14. Anna says:

    BLM WROTE:
    17) 3 MO sorrel colt. Euthanized by contractor for serious physical defect that was severe LF angular limb deformity (carpus valgus) and moderate RF rotational deformity (toed out) non-gather related.

    and to this lil darlin’ (shot by gun) by the blm; I hereby name
    “Tee Legged Toe Legged Bow legged Andy; so I name the two 3 MO old colts (self admittedly shot by blm or contract)

    Tee legged two legged bow legged Andy so the names are
    tee legged two legged bow legged Annie and Andy aka
    Raggedy Anne and Raggedy Andy; “rest in peace lil ones !

  15. Anna says:

    pps I won’t be on line for a bit; writing letters to Congress;so i write a bit extra; so Laura wrote:
    I was standing directly next to Dean when he called the vet, and I know he too was horrified by the sight of his condition. I pleaded with him to give the foal a chance in a volunteer rescue situation, such as Shirley Allen’s care where the 3 blm foals are being cared for and Iron Man also. It was the vets decision he was too far gone.
    anne: i doubt Dean was horrified…by my comment is; I do not agree the Foal was too far gone to have been saved; as I said: I helped with another Mustang Foal WAY WORSE!
    and with the help of Vitamin B’s the foal ate and is well today; the foal I helped couldn’t even stand up for 3 days
    then she (Sweetie) got the B-vit. shot stood up and drank milk; but see for Feathers even the B-Complex shot wouldn’t have worked; well I mean the B-complex shot would have given Feathers her appetite and energy…but the Foal would not have found any milk inside that corral !
    well its all too sad and bad so i will get “back to work
    contacting Congress; esp. my homestate reps. and sen.s.

    the way the blm handles and treats the mustangs is “wicked
    111 mustangs perish @ Calico; 25 at Turcarora; geezesse !

    Doesn’t the BLM see the anguish they are causing ? thnx; AW usa 1951

    • cat Kindsfather says:

      Anna, Laura did not say that, I did. I agree that some immediate urgent foaling care should have been done. Many professionals agree also, and think the baby foal could have been saved! This day was also a very stifling hot day with no shade!!! One women became ill from the heat and needed to be picked up in the air conditioned truck. I nearly passed out myself. The poor foal got no relief or help…… Only a death sentence.

      Their lives are precious to us. Death is not acceptable, especially when life is an option and a right. At least he deserved a chance!
      A chance could mean life.
      Now we think that may not have even been his mother!!! She had no milk and was later found to be stealing a newborn from its rightful mother!! Advocates alerted Dean that time too, and after some persistent pleading, the mare and foal were put together in a hospital pen alone with each other only. See Elyse Gardner’s blog regarding “Wishful” and “Junebug” at end of May posting. (2nd to last tour, the video)

  16. Laura Houston says:

    a bag of fluids and some shade would have saved that foal.

    we all know the blm would rather the foals just hurry up and die faster. some avocate may see!

  17. Anna says:

    Yeah ! there was nothing wrong with the lil darlin’ except thin
    for example: the blm blog said: “the foal (feathers) was “not able to rise…”; pure b.s.: the video I watched showed the Lil foal walking around just fine; she was fine; just too thin…I appreciate your comments; BLM could have atleast tried !

    Even Lil One Day; they could have tried something; like a Vitamin “Shot; help Foals to stand up and nurse; this is true !
    speaking of True; True? I was thinking about you last night as I was tossing and turning worrying about the Mustang herds
    and the torment the BLM puts us thru; so I wanted to say;

    True…I sincerely hope you are well and I prayed for you ! aw

  18. Anna says:

    ps this is interesting: which I read in The Merck Vet. Manuel

    “There is a certain condition which afflicts Livestock exp. Cattel the name of the condition is “Tetany…

    What Tetany is:

    Tetany is “A Deficiency of Magnesium; an Essential Mineral…

    When a Cow has Tetany “the cow “falls and cannot stand up;

    so The Farmer takes “One Shot of Magnesium; i.v. and gives the Magnesium shot to the Cattle lying on her side…

    In about one hour the Cow will stand up and begin grazing…

    So tis with “Thiamine Vitamin B1 shot and Wild Mustangs;

    just one Thiamine Vit. B1 can get a Foal to stand up and nurse

    I will explain this in future e-mails; search: Thiamine /Equine

  19. Anna says:

    ps and Thiamine Vit. B1 (pure) is only about $5 a pound and the average Mustang only requires about 1 teaspoon a day;

    safely added to drinking water; SAFE FOR NEWBORNS; FOALS!

    “Get with the Nutritional protocol BLM or get gone u ! ! ! AW

    I’ll be back; is not a threat ! lol where do I come up w/these?
    “EQUINES APPETITES RESTORED WITH THIAMIN VITAMIN B1!
    (known since 1857 !~(Thiamine found in Rice Bran + Yeasts!

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