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		<title>By: Laura Leigh</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-304</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 12:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF the BLM actually wants to begin a dialogue toward actually acting as the agency tasked by Congress in &#039;71 Legislation to protect America&#039;s WILD horses as INTEGRAL to the landscape than... yes... this is a good thing.

However in the past BLM has used this same &quot;smoke&quot; to &quot;mirror&quot; past behavior. 

It needs complete disclosure... public access to any documents pertaining to ANY dialogue. AND it would &quot;shut my mouth, honey&quot; if they actually invited advocates into the planning process. 

I have a panel of 4 that they really need to talk to.
: )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF the BLM actually wants to begin a dialogue toward actually acting as the agency tasked by Congress in &#8217;71 Legislation to protect America&#8217;s WILD horses as INTEGRAL to the landscape than&#8230; yes&#8230; this is a good thing.</p>
<p>However in the past BLM has used this same &#8220;smoke&#8221; to &#8220;mirror&#8221; past behavior. </p>
<p>It needs complete disclosure&#8230; public access to any documents pertaining to ANY dialogue. AND it would &#8220;shut my mouth, honey&#8221; if they actually invited advocates into the planning process. </p>
<p>I have a panel of 4 that they really need to talk to.<br />
: )</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-300</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 08:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello 

my comment is:  would this be like a Wild Mustang and Wild Burro Sanctary ? A type of Reservation for Mustangs and Burros: would this be a type of Conservation Preservation land; where the Mustangs would have &quot;free rein; to gallop; canter; walk; Eat Wild Grasses; drink water from brooks; etc. ?

Or would this be like another Holding Pen for Mustangs; 
on a much larger scale...

cuz if the BLM plans to &quot;set up a tri state holding pen ?

you can count me out ! ! !  Anna in Conn. usa]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello </p>
<p>my comment is:  would this be like a Wild Mustang and Wild Burro Sanctary ? A type of Reservation for Mustangs and Burros: would this be a type of Conservation Preservation land; where the Mustangs would have &#8220;free rein; to gallop; canter; walk; Eat Wild Grasses; drink water from brooks; etc. ?</p>
<p>Or would this be like another Holding Pen for Mustangs;<br />
on a much larger scale&#8230;</p>
<p>cuz if the BLM plans to &#8220;set up a tri state holding pen ?</p>
<p>you can count me out ! ! !  Anna in Conn. usa</p>
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		<title>By: Wyo. to Ore. gas pipeline on track for spring work &#8211; The Associated Press &#124; 1land.com</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wyo. to Ore. gas pipeline on track for spring work &#8211; The Associated Press &#124; 1land.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 06:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Laura Leigh</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Salazar was not looking for &quot;volunteers.&quot; I believe when you read the plan there is an expectation that the public will pay... not just through taxes... but will actually pay for the sanctuaries, privately.
That &quot;volunteer&quot; is a term used in his &quot;budget&quot; to justify.
Until the advocates get a call to present concepts for discussion I will stay on this like... like... well, a life depends on it.
: )]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Salazar was not looking for &#8220;volunteers.&#8221; I believe when you read the plan there is an expectation that the public will pay&#8230; not just through taxes&#8230; but will actually pay for the sanctuaries, privately.<br />
That &#8220;volunteer&#8221; is a term used in his &#8220;budget&#8221; to justify.<br />
Until the advocates get a call to present concepts for discussion I will stay on this like&#8230; like&#8230; well, a life depends on it.<br />
: )</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Moore</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suzanne Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember in Salazoo&#039;s original proposal he wanted advocate volunteers to help on the &quot;preserves.&quot; I&#039;ve been wondering how to get across to him that he could get all the advocate volunteers - and knowledgeable, responsible ones at that - in the WEST.

Maybe this would be a chance to show him how the eco-tourism and help from advocates would work in the WEST where it belongs!

Just a thought, but it just became a little more reasonable..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember in Salazoo&#8217;s original proposal he wanted advocate volunteers to help on the &#8220;preserves.&#8221; I&#8217;ve been wondering how to get across to him that he could get all the advocate volunteers &#8211; and knowledgeable, responsible ones at that &#8211; in the WEST.</p>
<p>Maybe this would be a chance to show him how the eco-tourism and help from advocates would work in the WEST where it belongs!</p>
<p>Just a thought, but it just became a little more reasonable..</p>
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		<title>By: Suzanne Moore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suzanne Moore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 00:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s the way I feel too. Still, maybe &quot;someone&quot; has realized that things MUST change. Like Mar says, this could be a great thing, but it will take me a LONG time to put any trust in the plans of the BLM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the way I feel too. Still, maybe &#8220;someone&#8221; has realized that things MUST change. Like Mar says, this could be a great thing, but it will take me a LONG time to put any trust in the plans of the BLM.</p>
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		<title>By: janet eaker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[janet eaker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am hoping(ME the eternal pessimist!!!!) that this means something positive, that BLM is realizing the power of advocates is growing and they really need to end the way they&#039;ve done things in the past and open up a possibility of real change, I am hoping!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping(ME the eternal pessimist!!!!) that this means something positive, that BLM is realizing the power of advocates is growing and they really need to end the way they&#8217;ve done things in the past and open up a possibility of real change, I am hoping!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Pliskin</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Pliskin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am intrigued that Gene S. was intrigued.  ONE way it might work for me is management by consensus, with a stakeholders model, including public advocates and independent ecologists, taking the best from other stakeholder run management plans created and now sustained by Land Trusts and some federal agency installations.  Plus, an additional full time measurement and monitoring staff/collaboration so that accurate science can be input before any decisions.  See ya, Rob Pliskin]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am intrigued that Gene S. was intrigued.  ONE way it might work for me is management by consensus, with a stakeholders model, including public advocates and independent ecologists, taking the best from other stakeholder run management plans created and now sustained by Land Trusts and some federal agency installations.  Plus, an additional full time measurement and monitoring staff/collaboration so that accurate science can be input before any decisions.  See ya, Rob Pliskin</p>
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		<title>By: Laura Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Leigh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My brain just hears the same old excuses on a bigger scale.
It&#039;s time for them to provide a map, fix the mistakes they made handing out leases and create core zones for equid containing eco-systems.

Anything is possible... but the track record is not very promising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brain just hears the same old excuses on a bigger scale.<br />
It&#8217;s time for them to provide a map, fix the mistakes they made handing out leases and create core zones for equid containing eco-systems.</p>
<p>Anything is possible&#8230; but the track record is not very promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Marilyn Wargo</title>
		<link>http://artandhorseslauraleigh.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/second-cup-chatter/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marilyn Wargo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Laura, If this could be done step by step and done with the horses as primarily managed for along with wildlife and real advocates and science were part and party to this as real studies with the horses Real effects upon the range, etc... all carefully watched... it could become a good thing. But this is BLM and the process would need all our scrutiny and they would need to know we would be there to ask questions and Get Answers all the way. It is hard to imagine this or anything with BLM because of a lack of trust. We are not the ones to be worried about by them either. But we would have lots to be concerned about on their part, as you say... mar]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, If this could be done step by step and done with the horses as primarily managed for along with wildlife and real advocates and science were part and party to this as real studies with the horses Real effects upon the range, etc&#8230; all carefully watched&#8230; it could become a good thing. But this is BLM and the process would need all our scrutiny and they would need to know we would be there to ask questions and Get Answers all the way. It is hard to imagine this or anything with BLM because of a lack of trust. We are not the ones to be worried about by them either. But we would have lots to be concerned about on their part, as you say&#8230; mar</p>
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